Les problèmes d'alex83270

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Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par alex83270 » 09 janv. 2019, 00:49

\o/ Ohayo mina \o/

Je viens vers vous car j'ai quelques souci avec mon jeu que je tente de modder principalement pour le visuel !
J'ai plusieurs problèmes dont certains mineurs et d'autres majeurs aller savoir pourquoi, ou je suis une quiche ou ben je suis une quiche... Pourtant ça fait deux trois jours que j'essaye de bosser dessus :mrgreen: déjà c'est un exploit j'ai pas l'air d'avoir de conflit et de crash :D

Pour commencer voici mon Modwatch : https://modwat.ch/u/alex83270/modlist

PS : J'ai oublié de dire que j'utilise bien entendu Mod Organizer 2 et LOOT, et j'ai essayé de bien vérifié l'ordre de chargement ainsi que les patchs à dispositions pour que le jeu soit le plus stable possible.
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Problème Majeur n°1 : Mauvaise optimisation de FPS
J'avoue j'ai pas une machine de guerre mais pourtant j'ai une machine potable je trouve... J'ai voulu suivre le guide de Trouvaille Graphique de Remrem avec un PC possédant un i5, 8go RAM et une CG AMD RX 480 8go.

Mon objectif graphique serait d'avoir des images aussi belles que sur le guide avec un paysage bien riche, du coup si Remrem je tiens à te remercier pour ce guide et je pris pour que tu lises ces lignes :zen:

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Sur cet image par exemple je tourne à 26fps, pour moi c'est déjà ça ! Je ne cherche pas un jeu a 60fps mais un minimum fluide, c'est a dire 30+ mais 26-27 c'est un bon début mais....
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Certaines météos me font chuter notamment la neige, la je suis descendu à 6fps... pas ouff du tout et j'aurai aussi aimer avoir la possibilité d'activer le mod
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin
en plus que c'est deux screens pour avoir un paysage plutôt du genre des images qui vont suivre mais vous devez vous douter que mes fps n'aime pas ça car ils sont à 8fps...
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En plus j'aurai aimé modifier la distance d'affichage car le fond est bien moche mais on mais déjà ça marche pas comme ça on va pas trop en demandé ahah.
Pour ce dernier mod je pourrais m'en passer, mais si je peux j'aimerai vraiment l'activer car ça rend, pour moi, Skyrim bien plus jolie et vivant et ça me donne plus envie d'y jouer !

PS : J'ai oublié de dire que j'ai essayé de descendre la qualité de certains modes, car pensant que ça marcherai bien j'avais tout mis en 2K ou Ultra / High, et j'ai baissé aussi la configuration de mon SkyrimPrefs.ini mais ne constatant aucun changement j'ai tout remis comme avant (config présente sur le Modwatch)
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Problème Majeur n°2 : Souci avec BethINI
Alors voilà, après avoir constaté une perte de FPS assez conséquente, la populace shootboxienne m'a conseillé d'utilisé cet étrange chose qu'est BethINI. Je l'ai configuré et tout mais je constate bug étrange... Je pense pourtant avoir modifié les bons fichiers vu qu'il y a un changement d'interface qui transforme mon jeu précédemment mis en 1920x1080 fenêtré en borderless grâce à mon ENB à une fenêtre de 400x400 ou un fullscreen 400x400px alors que dans ses codes suivants je ne distingue aucune réel ligne choquante et une bonne résolution :pensif:

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Problème mineur n°1 : Problème de fumée
Alors ceci c'est vraiment un problème mineur, j'ai un souci avec la fumée sur le menu et lors du premier et voir du second chargement qui rend la fumée, on va pas se mentir, dégueulasse :shock: comme la première image puis après ça va (voir la seconde) :sourcil: allez savoir pourquoi, peut être que mon ENB ou mon jeu à besoin de mettre en cache ou de charger les particules :pensif:
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:merci:

Merci d'avoir lu ce pavé et d'avance d'essayer de m'aider.
Je reste à votre disposition en mettant à profit mon arrêt de travail :xD: pour pouvoir espérer pouvoir profiter de ce jeu bientôt dans mon lit avec mon projecteur :D
Bizz sur vos fesses :coeur1: pendant ce temps je médite pour tout bon fonctionnement :zen:
Modifié en dernier par alex83270 le 15 janv. 2019, 17:03, modifié 1 fois.

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Re: Pertes de FPS, problème avec la fumée, problème INI etc...

Message par roix342 » 09 janv. 2019, 03:15

Gtx titan X, ne pas confondre avec ta CG AMD RX 480 8go. ^^

iMaxDesired=6000 , Il est possible qu'une valeur + basse suffisent amplement ^^ Les effet de type ( flamme, neige, pluie etc, un manque de particule et t'aura des effet intermittent )

Pour ton problème de fumé dégueux à l'écran titre, je te rassure, je dois avoir la même chose donc je ne pense pas que cela soit grave ^^

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Re: Pertes de FPS, problème avec la fumée, problème INI etc...

Message par alex83270 » 09 janv. 2019, 11:11

roix342 a écrit :
09 janv. 2019, 03:15
Gtx titan X, ne pas confondre avec ta CG AMD RX 480 8go. ^^

iMaxDesired=6000 , Il est possible qu'une valeur + basse suffisent amplement ^^ Les effet de type ( flamme, neige, pluie etc, un manque de particule et t'aura des effet intermittent )

Pour ton problème de fumé dégueux à l'écran titre, je te rassure, je dois avoir la même chose donc je ne pense pas que cela soit grave ^^
Merci d'avoir répondu.

Alors oui j'ai conscience que la GTX Titan X est bien plus puissante que m'a AMD, mais je pensais honnêtement que cela tournerai vu qu'à l'heure actuel je n'ai aucun souci avec aucun autre jeu, ancien ou actuel, pour jouer en Ultra. Skyrim est probablement trop gourmand avec ses mods...

Sinon en ce qui concerne le iMaxDesired=6000. Il est à 10 000, j'ai voulu le descendre à 6 000 car j'ai un mod de climat, Vivid Weathers , qui me conseillé de le laisser autour de 6 000 pour que cela marche. Mais je n'ai perçu aucun changement...

Pour la fumée comme je disais c'est un problème mineur qui relève juste de l’esthétique et du perfectionnisme :D

J'ai essayé de chercher des mods pour améliorer les performances mais j'en trouve pas réellement je trouve que des pages Nexus pour modifier les .ini

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Re: Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par alex83270 » 15 janv. 2019, 17:19

Bonjour,

J'ai trouvé après plusieurs tests et recherches j'ai enfin trouvé une solution pour accélérer mon jeu !

Tout simplement changer cette valeur :

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[Grass]
iMinGrassSize=20
Du coup il était conseillé 60 pour un bon ordi et 120 pour le coté performance du coup j'ai mis entre les deux 80 pour pas m'embêter :)

Du coup du coup (bis), après de multiples essais je pense avoir une configuration de mods qui semble correspondre à mon gameplay et mes goûts graphiques. J'ai l'impression que je n'ai pas de conflit, et d'esp manquant, mais après un coup de LOOT j'ai deux erreurs :

La première est celle ci, Lorsque j'essaye d'ordonnée mes mods :

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"Cyclic interaction detected between "Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp" and "ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp". Back cycle: ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp, ETaC - Complete ELE Patch.esp, ELFXEnhancer.esp, Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp"
Et la seconde est une erreur comme celle ci, sur une 20aines de mods :

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"TES5Edit v4.0.0 found 96 ITM records and 3 deleted references. Due to Improvements made to the cleaning process with the official release of xEdit 4.0.x+, any mods which were verified as clean with older versions of xEdit may now require additional cleaning. A guide for running xEdit 4.0.x+ in Quick Auto Clean mode can be found here."
Voici du coup mes rapports LOOT au complet :

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ainsi que l'ordre de chargement de mes mods :
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et mon ModWatch actuel : https://modwat.ch/u/alex83270/

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Re: Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par G'k » 15 janv. 2019, 18:41

J'aurais du penser au iMinGrassSize... Mais si tu avais utilisé BethINI, tu n'aurais pas eu ce problème.

Pour le premier message de LOOT, cela signifie que la BDD est incapable de régler l'ordre de ces trois mods. Il faut configurer des règles personnalisées.

Pour la 2ème erreur, ne t'embête pas. Mais si tu souhaites le corriger, ouvre xEdit avec l'option -quickautoclean et sélectionne un par un les fichiers signalés.
Crashs intempestifs ? Bugs à foison ? N'attendez plus, et passez à Mod Organizer 2. Combiné aux effets d'un tutoriel adapté, il saura vous débarrasser de vos ennuis avec NMM.

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Re: Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par alex83270 » 15 janv. 2019, 19:09

G'k a écrit :
15 janv. 2019, 18:41
J'aurais du penser au iMinGrassSize... Mais si tu avais utilisé BethINI, tu n'aurais pas eu ce problème.

Pour le premier message de LOOT, cela signifie que la BDD est incapable de régler l'ordre de ces trois mods. Il faut configurer des règles personnalisées.

Pour la 2ème erreur, ne t'embête pas. Mais si tu souhaites le corriger, ouvre xEdit avec l'option -quickautoclean et sélectionne un par un les fichiers signalés.
Salut, merci pour la réponses donc du coup à part ça, ça devrais aller.

Pour BethINI ben comme je le disais sur mon premier post j'ai un souci... mais c'est grâce à lui que j'ai pu comprendre ce que c'était cette ligne car j'ai réécris mon Skyrim.INI manuellement pour éviter tout bug.

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Du coup maintenant, comme je testais uniquement en lançant le jeu et une partie, je pensais que si Alternative Start marchais correctement lors de la création du personnage et du début de l'aventure, que le jeu marche correctement mais j'ai un chargement infini lorsque je met que je suis le propriétaire de Blancherive et que je veux sortir de ma maison :'(

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Re: Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par alex83270 » 16 janv. 2019, 15:18

Après plusieurs désactivation et réactivation de mod et re-création de sauvegarde j'ai réussi à lancer une partie. Mais du coup j'ai voulu changer la langue du jeu en Anglais et maintenant il ne se lance plus il crash au menu... j'ai aussi changé (merci @Neoso) l'ini de MO2 pour mettre le

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Re: Les problèmes d'alex83270

Message par alex83270 » 18 janv. 2019, 19:42

Bonsoir,
Alors voilà après desinstallation complète du jeu, et réinstallation en anglais cette fois-ci j'ai réussi à régler le bug du crash au menu après avoir ré-installer tout mes ENB :surprise:

Mais bon, ayant la schoumoune voici un nouveau problème : Après avoir résolu la boucle de LOOT, j'ai pu faire un petit nettoyage du Load Order, et retrier tout ceci. Et ayant eu quelques crash après l'introduction d'Heidel (quand on sors de la grotte avec Hadvar ou Ralof) en allant ou vers Rivebois, ou vers la première mine des Bandits, j'ai voulu ré-installer manuellement SKSE, qui jusqu'à maintenant était installé par le biais de Steam.

Mais maintenant, après avoir ré-installer SKSE j'ai encore plus de crash ! Je l'ai peut être mal installer :pensif: ou paramétrer...

Et LOOT m'assombri énormément mon jeu aussi ! voici des screens comparatifs... (tiens pendant que j'y pense peut être qu'après avoir fait un coup de LOOT justement j'ai un mod graphique qui c'est mis en marche pour me l'assombrir, genre un ENB pour rendre plus immersif les donjons et autres :pensif: )
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Et j'ai aussi un autre souci tertiaire qui est le non fonctionnement du mod "Spells gives off light" mais ça je verrai quand le jeu est stable...

Si quelqu'un pourrait m'aider pour pouvoir enfin profiter du jeu :honneur: mon arrêt maladie est sur le point de terminer :triste:
Voici mon ModWatch si besoin http://modwat.ch/u/alex83270

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